{"id":117935,"date":"2019-08-06T07:00:37","date_gmt":"2019-08-06T12:00:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.premiumbeat.com\/blog\/?p=117935"},"modified":"2019-08-09T11:15:30","modified_gmt":"2019-08-09T16:15:30","slug":"interview-john-downer-serengeti","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.premiumbeat.com\/blog\/interview-john-downer-serengeti\/","title":{"rendered":"Industry Interview with John Downer of Discovery&#8217;s SERENGETI"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2 id=\"premiumbeat-spoke-with-john-downer-about-his-new-nature-documentary-serengeti-following-different-species-of-animals-throughout-africa\">PremiumBeat spoke with John Downer about his new nature documentary SERENGETI, following different species of animals throughout Africa.<\/h2>\n<p><span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/MALrUL40kBc?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>PremiumBeat: <\/b>What\u2019s your background, and how did you find yourself in nature documentary filmmaking?<\/p>\n<p><b><a href=\"https:\/\/www.imdb.com\/name\/nm1521546\/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" data-wpel-link=\"external\">John Downer<\/a>: <\/b>I\u2019ve been interested in animals all my life. And that made me study Zoology in University. After University, I went into the BBC. So that gave me the chance to see my dream, and also work in the naturalist unit of BBC. That\u2019s where I started to cut my taste making films. But I always have thought there must be another way to make a naturalistic film, you know, rather than the conventional way. I felt that if we are making films about animals, we should be in that world.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>I think the viewer should see a flying bird and they should be an inch away from it. If you are looking at a lion, you should be in the grass. So, that\u2019s what has driven me across my career.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s been a long career now, it\u2019s a matter of about thirty years. And I think of the one moment that everything came together because I had all the experience and the techniques that I needed.<\/p>\n<p>And, so you know, it\u2019s been a process.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_118062\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.premiumbeat.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/Serengeti_01_002-2-1-1.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" data-wpel-link=\"internal\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-118062\" class=\"wp-image-118062 size-full\" title=\"Industry Interview with John Downer of Discovery's SERENGETI \u2014 SERENGETI\" src=\"https:\/\/www.premiumbeat.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/Serengeti_01_002-2-1-1.jpg\" alt=\"Industry Interview with John Downer of Discovery's SERENGETI \u2014 SERENGETI\" width=\"755\" height=\"425\" srcset=\"https:\/\/vip-go.premiumbeat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/Serengeti_01_002-2-1-1.jpg 755w, https:\/\/vip-go.premiumbeat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/Serengeti_01_002-2-1-1.jpg?resize=300,169 300w, https:\/\/vip-go.premiumbeat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/Serengeti_01_002-2-1-1.jpg?resize=277,156 277w, https:\/\/vip-go.premiumbeat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/Serengeti_01_002-2-1-1.jpg?resize=359,202 359w, https:\/\/vip-go.premiumbeat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/Serengeti_01_002-2-1-1.jpg?resize=543,306 543w, https:\/\/vip-go.premiumbeat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/Serengeti_01_002-2-1-1.jpg?resize=560,315 560w, https:\/\/vip-go.premiumbeat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/Serengeti_01_002-2-1-1.jpg?resize=150,84 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 755px) 100vw, 755px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-118062\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">\u00a92019 JDP\/BBC\/Discovery Channel \/\/ Photo Courtesy of Discovery<\/p><\/div>\n<p><b>PB: <\/b>I&#8217;m sure you had a lot of unique camera systems for <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.imdb.com\/title\/tt8164448\/?ref_=nv_sr_1?ref_=nv_sr_1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" data-wpel-link=\"external\">SERENGETI<\/a><\/em>. What did those look like?<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>JD: <\/b>Well, first on the camera system, I was to inherit a lot of stuff I used in my <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.imdb.com\/title\/tt6443078\/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" data-wpel-link=\"external\">Spy<\/a><\/em> series. That\u2019s why we were using camera disguises to capture unique viewpoints. At the end of the day, you pick those cameras up, you don\u2019t know what\u2019s going to be on them, but there\u2019s usually a treasure, and so those really helped.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>The biggest breakthrough is the stabilized camera system technology, which would enable us to go way beyond. We used that in various, various forms. From really sophisticated and expensive camera systems that could support a 1500mm lens and film, while on the move.<\/p>\n<p>On the other side, you can have all this equipment &#8230; the animals got to be happy with and tolerate it. We spent nearly two years with the animals and we became invisible to them, effectively. They just didn\u2019t care about our presence and were almost oblivious to us. That\u2019s when you know you\u2019re capturing the most incredible behavior by being inside their world. That was the dream of this production, and suddenly, it was all possible. Drone technology, as well, has helped immensely.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\"> The drone captured something incredible \u2014 that we\u2019ve never seen before \u2014 involving a snake and one of our main characters. No one would have ever written that into a storyline, and that\u2019s what&#8217;s so exciting for me. <\/span>So, it all came together, just at the right point for this series.<\/p>\n<p><b>PB: <\/b>The storyline is beautiful, tragic, heroic, and emotional. What&#8217;s your process like for \u201ccasting\u201d the animals for a series like this?<\/p>\n<p><b>JD: <\/b>It\u2019s based on what we know and also we got a huge experience. We could sort of block out what is being expected to happen. The series is told by the seasons that impact the animals in different ways. So, we were so ready to change when we started to film.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>And, you know, the end of the storyline became very different from the one we started with. The incredible events we filmed, you could never script. In the beginning, if we had written them, we wouldn\u2019t imagine they\u2019d be possible. That\u2019s what was so exciting for me about this project. The storyline itself changed and changed through what the animals did.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_118071\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.premiumbeat.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/Serengeti_04_003-1-1.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" data-wpel-link=\"internal\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-118071\" class=\"wp-image-118071 size-full\" title=\"Industry Interview with John Downer of Discovery's SERENGETI \u2014 Watering Hole in SERENGETI\" src=\"https:\/\/www.premiumbeat.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/Serengeti_04_003-1-1.jpg\" alt=\"Industry Interview with John Downer of Discovery's SERENGETI \u2014 Watering Hole in SERENGETI\" width=\"755\" height=\"566\" srcset=\"https:\/\/vip-go.premiumbeat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/Serengeti_04_003-1-1.jpg 755w, https:\/\/vip-go.premiumbeat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/Serengeti_04_003-1-1.jpg?resize=300,225 300w, https:\/\/vip-go.premiumbeat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/Serengeti_04_003-1-1.jpg?resize=277,208 277w, https:\/\/vip-go.premiumbeat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/Serengeti_04_003-1-1.jpg?resize=359,269 359w, https:\/\/vip-go.premiumbeat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/Serengeti_04_003-1-1.jpg?resize=543,407 543w, https:\/\/vip-go.premiumbeat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/Serengeti_04_003-1-1.jpg?resize=560,420 560w, https:\/\/vip-go.premiumbeat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/Serengeti_04_003-1-1.jpg?resize=150,112 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 755px) 100vw, 755px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-118071\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">\u00a92019 JDP\/BBC\/Discovery Channel \/\/ Photo Courtesy of Discovery<\/p><\/div>\n<p><b>PB: <\/b>How important is that adaptability for a documentary filmmaker?<\/p>\n<p><b>JD: <\/b>I think the big challenge is you got to understand your animal and the complexities of their lives and their decision making. If it is going to be a successful filming, you got to understand them and we have an incredible team.<\/p>\n<p>We have a really experienced team who have spent a lot of their lives in Africa. Between them, there was over one hundred years of experience filming Africa. They understood them very well. The animals&#8217; lives are complex and not predictable. Maybe they have been to the water several times and that\u2019s where they are going to be tomorrow. They\u2019re going to be heading for that water. It\u2019s the kind of thing that only experience could give<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>you and I was lucky,.<\/p>\n<p>The other thing is you got to know that if the animals move into a certain area, this is going to bring them into conflict with someone else. And so, you\u2019re looking out for that conflict because a lot of it is for anticipation \u2014 in terms of what\u2019s going to happen. If you are just simply following the animals and expecting their behavior, you\u2019re going to miss it because you got to see what\u2019s coming before they do. And so, there\u2019s a lot of that knowledge supplied to it &#8230; it&#8217;s always, always a surprise.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_118075\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.premiumbeat.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/Serengeti_01_005-1-1.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" data-wpel-link=\"internal\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-118075\" class=\"wp-image-118075 size-full\" title=\"Industry Interview with John Downer of Discovery's SERENGETI \u2014 Hyena in SERENGETI\" src=\"https:\/\/www.premiumbeat.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/Serengeti_01_005-1-1.jpg\" alt=\"Industry Interview with John Downer of Discovery's SERENGETI \u2014 Hyena in SERENGETI\" width=\"755\" height=\"424\" srcset=\"https:\/\/vip-go.premiumbeat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/Serengeti_01_005-1-1.jpg 755w, https:\/\/vip-go.premiumbeat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/Serengeti_01_005-1-1.jpg?resize=300,168 300w, https:\/\/vip-go.premiumbeat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/Serengeti_01_005-1-1.jpg?resize=277,156 277w, https:\/\/vip-go.premiumbeat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/Serengeti_01_005-1-1.jpg?resize=359,202 359w, https:\/\/vip-go.premiumbeat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/Serengeti_01_005-1-1.jpg?resize=543,305 543w, https:\/\/vip-go.premiumbeat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/Serengeti_01_005-1-1.jpg?resize=560,314 560w, https:\/\/vip-go.premiumbeat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/Serengeti_01_005-1-1.jpg?resize=150,84 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 755px) 100vw, 755px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-118075\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">\u00a92019 JDP\/BBC\/Discovery Channel \/\/ Photo Courtesy of Discovery<\/p><\/div>\n<p><b>PB: <\/b>If you&#8217;re a new filmmaker just getting into the field or starting your career, and you want to get into nature documentaries, what advice would you have for them?<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>JD: <\/b>Know your subject. That means spending a lot of time with them. We\u2019re storytellers. We are telling a story of nature and you\u2019ve got to know that subject and know what story it\u2019s telling you.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>We\u2019re trying to make sure that people understand the connection we have with other animals. We live in cities, we live a distance from nature. Once those same animals, this was their world. And so, what we try to do is to make people passionate about it, so that we can reconnect them with nature. You reconnect with nature by understanding and that will make us care. If we care, we will protect.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>Check out this exclusive clip of the next episode of <em>SERENGETI<\/em> from our friends at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.discovery.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" data-wpel-link=\"external\">Discovery<\/a>!<\/strong><\/p>\n<div style=\"width: 640px;\" class=\"wp-video\"><video class=\"wp-video-shortcode\" id=\"video-117935-1\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" preload=\"metadata\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"video\/mp4\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.pond5.com\/blog\/rs\/uploads\/2019\/08\/Serengeti_Bakari_Struggles-of-Parenting.mp4?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/cdn.pond5.com\/blog\/rs\/uploads\/2019\/08\/Serengeti_Bakari_Struggles-of-Parenting.mp4\" data-wpel-link=\"external\" target=\"_blank\">https:\/\/cdn.pond5.com\/blog\/rs\/uploads\/2019\/08\/Serengeti_Bakari_Struggles-of-Parenting.mp4<\/a><\/video><\/div>\n<hr \/>\n<p><em>Cover image via SERENGETI.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Looking for more industry interviews? Check these out.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.premiumbeat.com\/blog\/interview-production-designer-john-paino\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" data-wpel-link=\"internal\">Industry Insights: Production Designer John Paino Tells Big Little Lies<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.premiumbeat.com\/blog\/interview-das-boot-composer-matthias-weber\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" data-wpel-link=\"internal\">Industry Insights: Hulu\u2019s Das Boot Composer Matthias Weber<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.premiumbeat.com\/blog\/interview-dj-stipsen-dp-what-we-do-in-the-shadows\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" data-wpel-link=\"internal\">Industry Interview: DJ Stipsen, DP of &#8220;What We Do in the Shadows&#8221;<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.premiumbeat.com\/blog\/industry-interview-editor-nena-erb\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" data-wpel-link=\"internal\">Industry Insights: Behind the Scenes with Editor Nena Erb<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.premiumbeat.com\/blog\/interview-blasting-company-animation-scoring\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" data-wpel-link=\"internal\">Industry Insights: The Blasting Company on Animation Scoring<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>PremiumBeat spoke with John Downer about his new nature documentary SERENGETI, following different species of animals throughout Africa.\u00a0<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":87,"featured_media":118363,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[3843,715,79,6048],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-class-post-117935","post-class-post","post-class-type-post","post-class-status-publish","post-class-format-standard","post-class-has-post-thumbnail","post-class-hentry","post-class-category-filmmaking-2","post-class-category-industry","post-class-category-inspiration","post-class-category-interview"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v18.5 (Yoast SEO v21.5) - 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